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Dec 11th, 2011, 18:39 PM   #1
 
in brief my daughters 9 weeks old today. me & the dad seperated when i was 5 months pregnant i split from him because he started being mad and aggressive.

i have had no money from him and he has bought his daughter nothing.

when she was born i let him see her in hospital. he used two weeks annual leave off work for when she was born he saw her 3 times for a couple hours-- his choice.
he saw her at 3 weeks old then didnt see her until she was 7 weeks old. when he showed up on this visit he was 10 mins late and only stayed 45 mins as he asked if i had registered birth ( i had annd left his name off from advice from citizens advice bureau as it wouldnt be ideal for him to have parental responsibilty) when i told him he was not on borth cert he shouted swore etc handed my daughter back, said he had a solicitor lined up and left.
two weeks later which fell friday just gone he asked to see chloe so i rang solicitors for advice they advised let him see her once a week for an hour to bond until they sort out a contact centre.

he was ment to come at 3 today & didnt show till 3.40 and left at 4pm. the whole time he was here he held her in one arm and was texting on his phone with the other.

i told the solicitors i wanted him to see chloe etc and have never stopped him etc. however i dont know whether its in her best intrest to stop contact and let courts decide or keep letting him do this.

he has never apologised or acknowledged his behaviour, his mom n dad come see chloe no problems but he is the oposite. my solicitors even told me that when the balls rolling the will stop him seeing chloe until he has been assesed by a physocologist or doctor.

see when i rang my solicitors it was purely to arrang access at a contact centre not my home, now im not sure if hes had enough chance. my friend was with me today too as my solicitor advised it to be supervised because of his aggression.

im 50/50 whether to stop him or not but if i did what would the next steps be he takes and surely the courts would grant access anyway. he has been late 3 times altogether and has only seen he like 7 times once by 30 mins once by 10 and today by 40mins.
any ideas or similar stories out there ? xxxx
 
 

 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 18:50 PM   #2
 
I think that your daughter will want a relationship with her dad even if he is texting the whole time or is a bit aggressive, if he was violent then that's a different thing,but if you are sure he isn't going to hurt her (and you must be to have him in the house with you). Then it is my personal opinion than you should do whatever you can to facilitate their relationship.

A parents relationship with their child is sacred, and a childs relationship with its parents is also sacred, it's not something that should be considered unless in absolute dire circumstances where the child is at risk.

Really, I honestly believe that if you can turn around and say someone is too aggressive or texts too much or anything else once the child is born, i think that is something that should have been noted before making a baby not after. He is her father, she is his daughter... Dont break that unless you have too c
 
 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 19:10 PM   #3
 
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I think that your daughter will want a relationship with her dad even if he is texting the whole time or is a bit aggressive, if he was violent then that's a different thing,but if you are sure he isn't going to hurt her (and you must be to have him in the house with you). Then it is my personal opinion than you should do whatever you can to facilitate their relationship.

A parents relationship with their child is sacred, and a childs relationship with its parents is also sacred, it's not something that should be considered unless in absolute dire circumstances where the child is at risk.

Really, I honestly believe that if you can turn around and say someone is too aggressive or texts too much or anything else once the child is born, i think that is something that should have been noted before making a baby not after. He is her father, she is his daughter... Dont break that unless you have too c
hi after he left last week i was crying and shaking for hours i am honestly scared of this man, the solitors now this i was so scared calling the police crossed my mind. throughout pregnancy he was verbally aggressive saying he was so angry and mad he needed to hit something there and then. im not trying to destroy a bond im honestly not but is texting me abuse imbetween visits being 40 minutes late to a 1 hour long visit fair on my daughter? how can she bond?
and just for your information his behsiour that i ''should of noted'' was not like that before we tried for a baby his behaviour started at 5 months he had shown no signs early of this otherwise i would of left early so dont think its really fair you saying that.

instead ihave been ammicable never retliated back. i just believe if courts enforced something he would stick to it better. dont you think a day goes by that i dont like my daughter has a broken family or that her dads never supported her or that he will be so late to see her when he lives 5 mins away.

im not having a dig at you but think you are kind of not seeing things how they are.

i have had to live day by day in fear he will ' just show up' at 10pm at night like he once threatened

you need to bear in mind i am the one thats instructed a solicitor to get contact in place as im sick of it being all over the place, ive made that step he hasnt. i am the good guy here
i am simply questioning when is enough enough?xx
 
 

 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 19:14 PM   #4
 
If he's being violent, which by the sounds of it he is, or being abusive towards you, then that's a whole different kettle of fish and I definitely think a contact centre would be best x

Even if he sees her for 1hr a week for the rest of her life, at least she will know her father.

Is there someone who can act as the contact centre for the time being? Could he go round to a relative of yours at a set time each week to see the baby? That way you will have no reason to contact each other at all which might be healthy for you both x x x
 
 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 19:25 PM   #5
 
hi, thanks for your reply, well this is what my solicitor is going to organise a contact centre as out of his choice he has seen his daughter for only 1 hour 15minutes in 6 weeks, its so hurtful to know this. thats why my friend was here today, solicitors wanted it supervised because of his anger, we both went to a different room. it really wasnt my choice for him to be at my home solicitors either advised my hone or a park or something but didnt want to take my 9 week old baby in the winter to a park and they wouldnt bond so much.

as the time has gone on it feels like he doesnt want anything to do with my daughter. i hear of men all the time that jump through hoops to see their child.

at the start he was so intrested he asked for pics all the time and would generally text to see how she was and as the weeks went on this deterioated to nothing. he only text to swear at me or arrange a visit but never replys to confirm hes coming so i stay in never knowing if hes coming or not. his behaviour is sparadic and i wish he would either be committed or not at all as this behaviuor and hardly seeing her is no good for anyone.

he is missing out on so much of her like her smiling and giggliny and if he carrys on he will regret it when hes older so im trying to correct his mistake her by making it regular etc.

i hate the stress too i must admit i was a shaking wreck waiting for him today he geniunly scares me and it just feels like he wishes me to turn round and stop contact. surely if he told his mom or friends he saw chloe for 20 mnutes today and they said why just 20. if he says oh i was 40 mins late .... i wander what they say or even if he tells them the truth xxx
 
 

 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 19:27 PM   #6
 
really wouldnt feel comfortable him going to a friends or family home as i dont want to burden them with all this too. just praying this contact centre hurrys up xxx
 
 

 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 20:37 PM   #7
 
Yeah it sounds like that would be best, if he contacts you at all, just tell him that you would rather only speak about the baby... You gave birth nine weeks ago and need to protect yourself as much as anything else.
 
 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 22:39 PM   #8
 
thankyou. i think if he keeps flaring up i will just have to be stern and like you say just make sure he keeps the subject about our baby and nothing else just cant wait for the mess to be sorted xx
 
 

 
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Dec 11th, 2011, 23:34 PM   #9
 
I bet x much love and let us know how it all turns out x xx
 
 
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Dec 12th, 2011, 19:41 PM   #10
 
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have been able to put him on the birth certificate anyway unless he'd went with you as you aren't married, so it shouldn't have been a surprise to him.

Hope you get it sorted - if your relationship is as scary and he's as troubled as he sounds, I think you're doing the right thing going through official channels from the start x
 
 

 
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Dec 12th, 2011, 19:55 PM   #11
 
That's awful that you have to be made feel this way by him

I think you've made the right decision in choosing access through a contact centre tbh. That way you won't have to be in fear of being around him and your LO will be safe too in case you're worrying that he'll get aggressive with her if he can't cope with her etc.

All you can do hun is give him access to see your daughter and as she gets older she'll soon find out for herself that daddy always lets her down. That way your daughter doesn't think that you ever prevented her from seeing him and will make up her own mind when older if he's worth being a part of her life iykwim...

I totally know and understand that you want to protect your daughter from being hurt and let down by him but you'll be there to support her when that happens and she'll always thank you for that.

I really hope the contact centre thing hurries up. And be safe huni! Like the solicitor said, always have someone with you when he comes to your home. Or meet in a public place, even a local coffee shop or something. Let us know how you get on. x
 
 

 
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Dec 12th, 2011, 20:25 PM   #12
 
totally agree BabysMomma, its gotta be the childs choice if anyones xx
 
 
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Dec 12th, 2011, 20:38 PM   #13
 
I feel for you hun I made the decision 2 years ago not to let my ex see our kids and it's something I stand by today. You do what you feel is right you are the only one who knows your situation and sometimes it's not in a Childs interests to have there father around. I hope things work out for you. Good luck hun x
 
 

 
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Dec 12th, 2011, 22:52 PM   #14
 
thanks everyone for your replies, i had the worst sleep didnt get a wink till after 4am it was on my mind. why doesnt he make an effort with her makes things even worse when im googling stuff and fathers for justice comes up, some men really do jump through hoops for their child and they derserve to be in their life, those who dont, do they deserve to be. ive had even more of a think about things and shared this burden with a couple of friends too as before i had been carrying all this stress around with me & over night i started thinking, this case laid down in black and white

OUT OF HIS CHOICE HE HAS SEEN HIS DAUGHTER 1HOUR 15MINUTES IN 6 WEEKS
HE HAS NEVER SUPPORT HER / NOT EVEN A PAIR OF MITTENS OR A GIFT FOR HER & NO MONEY (but i have never mentioned this instead be a bigger person and still held the olive branch out for him to visit even when each time he comes he has new clothes or new phone for himself i dont mention anything even though it hurts he doesnt provide for hhis daughter)
HAS BEEN LATE ON THE LAST 3 VISITS ONCE BY 30 MINS ONE BY 10 MINS AND THIS ONE BY 40MINS
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HAS BEEN AGRESSIVE & STORMED OUT OF A VISIT
and why on earth am i contacting a solicitor to ''make'' him visit
In my shoes really what would you ladies do?, as ive slept on it im more tempted if he asks to see her to advise im not willing to let him and would prefer him to go get legal help to put solid visiting in place. not the attitiude of ''your never seeing her etc'' just in the sense of get help to get it set in stone. as thats in the best intrest of my daughter as if i keep letting him walk in and out as it stands they will never bond, but if i say no that may make him more determined to see her which will be best for her in the end,

I feel a complete mug, i really do xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
 

 
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Dec 12th, 2011, 22:54 PM   #15
 
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I feel for you hun I made the decision 2 years ago not to let my ex see our kids and it's something I stand by today. You do what you feel is right you are the only one who knows your situation and sometimes it's not in a Childs interests to have there father around. I hope things work out for you. Good luck hun x
hi amyrose wow that must of been hard if you dont mind me asking why did you stop contact and has he tried since to get into your childrens life. you must have been so strong to do that xxx
 
 

 
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