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Ladies with low progesterone - I'd love to hear your experiences

Jan 3rd, 2018, 11:29 AM   #1
 
Hi

A bit about me - I started taking progesterone (provera) back in 2007 for various reasons (long, heavy periods, mood, skin & weight problems that all pointed to high Oesteogen / low progesterone). I wasn't TTC then, just trying to feel normal! The doc then moved me onto the Mirena coil instead of provera and that worked just as well, as it had progesterone in it.

I'm now TTC and have taken the Mirena out, but haven't replaced the progesterone. I have moved house and have a new doctor and he said, looking at my records, that there's nothing to indicate that I'd have difficulties conceiving.

I've now been tracking my cycle and I'm not getting any changes in temperature at all, even after an LG surge, and my luteal phase was just 7 days last month - which looks like it is my old friend progesterone causing me problems again. I'm 3 days past ovulation today so waiting to see how the luteal phase is this month.

I've spent the whole morning being upset and being ill with anxiety about this, reading scary articles online. I'm so worried I won't be able to get pregnant or stay pregnant. Can those of you further down the road on this let me know what to expect? Is it something that is easy to "fix" with progesterone tablets / cream or are the success rates low? How long does it take the build progesterone back up to a more normal level? What is realistic for me to expect so I can prepare myself?

I'm hoping for a blood test next week as a first step, but I'm feeling pretty convinced considering my cycle monitoring and history. I'm really scared that I won't be able to be a mum and that my partner, who is desperate to be a dad, will be devastated.
 
 
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Jan 4th, 2018, 13:37 PM   #2
 
Hi Sylvia,

I have battled with this over a long period, and don't fret. If this is your issue, then it can be easily fixed, (but not always via doctors).
In my experience the NHS view on progesterone is dismissive. They are quick to tell you you won't need it and you are fine without doing the necessary checks, and even then it's not always easy - however, if you are open to doing a bit of research yourself then it can be done without too much palaver! Firstly, have you had a day 21 progesterone test done? If not, that should be your first call - ask your GP they should be fine to do it but if they won't google local holistic or fertility clinics in your area. They will do it for you - at a cost but its not expensive (my last one was 30) Once you have the result of this you are then armed with cast iron proof there is or isn't an issue to do something about. Then if you are deficient, you could try acupuncture which can help naturally increase it, (and would also help with your luteal phase issue and balancing your cycles) but obviously there are also creams and pessaries. Pessaries would have to be issued to you by a fertility clinic and they likely won't do that until you are actually pregnant but the cream you can buy (but only from America). The one I use that's been recommended to me is Pro-gest. I buy it on iherb from America, it's not cheap for how much you get but if it works it's worth it. It shouldnt take too long, maybe a few months. Hope this helps! xx
 
 

 
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Jan 4th, 2018, 23:58 PM   #3
 
1sttimer I can't begin to thank you enough for your reply! Your experience with NHS sounds like the experience I am going to have. I am due for my 21 day blood test on Monday but it was a real battle to get the referral from my GP. She just didnt seem to want to talk about progesterone even though I have the short luteal phase, a history of progesterone deficiency and no temp changes after ovulation! It felt like she thought I was being silly. I started to doubt myself but then remembered my medical history and focused on the chart in front of me. I wouldn't want to waste NHS time,but if there is an issue I don't want every month to be the same. She eventually agreed to send me for the test and said we can put a plan together once we get the results, but warned me that they don't often prescribe progesterone.
I'm so relieved to hear that there are other options - I used to practice ear acupuncture myself (for people with addiction issues) and saw the benefits on them, so I'd be up for giving that a go and will also look into the cream you mentioned if the test does come back to say that there is a deficiency.
Thank you so much once again for your reply - you've made me feel like I'm not going mad, made me feel less anxious about our prospects and much more confident that there are solutions out there that can work for us. Thank you!
 
 
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Jan 5th, 2018, 11:51 AM   #4
 
No problem at all, glad to help. My battle has been going on for years with various hiccups along the way (see signature) and I now pay through the nose for good advice that makes me feel like I'm finally getting somewhere. Don't ever feel you are wasting NHS time...whether they think you are or not, if it's important to you, persue it! I sat back quietly the last time I got pregnant and didn't get some simple advice on how to manage my tricky situation and lived to regret it when I miscarried at 16 wks. It's rubbish that we are effectively 'on our own' but at least once you know you can just crack on without relying on anyone else! I highly recommend acupuncture, it has worked wonders for me - but find a fertility specialized acupuncturist as they will also help with pointing you towards any supplements and lifestyle changes you can make - good luck! x
 
 

 
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Jan 5th, 2018, 19:16 PM   #5
 
I am so sorry to hear about your experience and your sad loss. How awful. I am sorry. Wishing you the best of luck for this year. I will follow your advice - I think I can track down the person who trained me in ear acupuncture and ask for her recommendation for someone who specialises in fertility acupuncture. I'm also starting to think that paying for specialist advice may be the way to go, depending on what happens over the next few months and with my test next week. I've had problems with my periods, tubes, ovaries and hormones since I was 14 so I've always had a feeling it would be challenging.
Thanks again for your fantastic advice and really wish you the best this year x
 
 
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Jan 8th, 2018, 15:09 PM   #6
 
I have borderline progesterone, NHM imports are based in Ireland and you can order online, the Emerita progest cream is amazing, use from after ovulation to 2 days before your period is due. x
 
 

 
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Jan 9th, 2018, 11:11 AM   #7
 
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I have borderline progesterone, NHM imports are based in Ireland and you can order online, the Emerita progest cream is amazing, use from after ovulation to 2 days before your period is due. x
Hi Lillith, quick question re. your emirate pro-gest point - what makes you say use until 2 days before your period is due? I was under the impression you take it come what may until your AF due date and if test negative then stop taking it. If you stop 2 days before and get a sudden drop in progesterone could that not cause a potential MC if you were pregnant and it was too early to test? (I'm not questioning you just genuinely curious as there are so many conflicting ideas out there haha!) PS> thanks so much for your note on the late OV after chemical, that seems to be what might be happening with me...now day 21 and still nothing. We shall see!! x
 
 

 
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Jan 9th, 2018, 12:10 PM   #8
 
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I have borderline progesterone, NHM imports are based in Ireland and you can order online, the Emerita progest cream is amazing, use from after ovulation to 2 days before your period is due. x
Hi Lillith, quick question re. your emirate pro-gest point - what makes you say use until 2 days before your period is due? I was under the impression you take it come what may until your AF due date and if test negative then stop taking it. If you stop 2 days before and get a sudden drop in progesterone could that not cause a potential MC if you were pregnant and it was too early to test? (I'm not questioning you just genuinely curious as there are so many conflicting ideas out there haha!) PS> thanks so much for your note on the late OV after chemical, that seems to be what might be happening with me...now day 21 and still nothing. We shall see!! x
No it's fine, ask away with the questions, I stop the cream 2 days before af so the hormones drop to bring on AF thats what the instructions recommend. Yes you are right that if you catch pregnant you should continue with the cream throughout your pregnancy. With myself I can tell instantly when I catch pregnant and also you will get a positive on a frer 2 days before af so its never been an issue with me. You could take the cream up to 28 days but it might mean your cycle is a couple of days longer than usual. Hope that helps. xx
 
 

 
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Jan 9th, 2018, 12:27 PM   #9
 
Lillith thank you so much for this information. I get my progesterone test results on Thursday so will follow your suggestion for progesterone cream and am also looking and accupuncture and increasing certain vitamins (I've already started with omega 3, bit Confused and magnesium as I read that can help).

Thank you so much for your advice. Really appreciate it.
 
 
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Jan 9th, 2018, 14:43 PM   #10
 
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Lillith thank you so much for this information. I get my progesterone test results on Thursday so will follow your suggestion for progesterone cream and am also looking and accupuncture and increasing certain vitamins (I've already started with omega 3, bit Confused and magnesium as I read that can help).

Thank you so much for your advice. Really appreciate it.
You are very welcome Sylva, I take a high dose of vitamin C as research has proven after 6 months it raises progesterone. I also took soy isoflavins for 3 cycles and that gave me a really strong ovulation. Let us know how your results go. My progesterone results have been 28, 27 and 15. They say anything at 30 will maintain a pregnancy. x
 
 

 
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Jan 9th, 2018, 16:33 PM   #11
 
That is good information to know. I don't really know what to expect with the results so having some numbers is really helpful.

Thanks and good luck to you x
 
 
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That is good information to know. I don't really know what to expect with the results so having some numbers is really helpful.

Thanks and good luck to you x
Well hopefully you might be surprised and your progesterone levels might be ok. I forgot to also mention agnus castus has also been proven to balance hormones especially if you have low progesterone, many ladies who couldn't conceive have caught pregnant after taking it. x
 
 

 
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Jan 9th, 2018, 21:39 PM   #13
 
Oh I've never heard of that before! Thank you!! I was put on progesterone pills 10 years ago for non baby related problems and it changed my life. I am not on them now so do have a worry that the progesterone is low so it is great to hear your recommendations. I'm keeping fingers crossed the results come back ok, but also ready to hear that it's low if it goes that way.
 
 
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I have borderline progesterone, NHM imports are based in Ireland and you can order online, the Emerita progest cream is amazing, use from after ovulation to 2 days before your period is due. x
Hi Lillith, quick question re. your emirate pro-gest point - what makes you say use until 2 days before your period is due? I was under the impression you take it come what may until your AF due date and if test negative then stop taking it. If you stop 2 days before and get a sudden drop in progesterone could that not cause a potential MC if you were pregnant and it was too early to test? (I'm not questioning you just genuinely curious as there are so many conflicting ideas out there haha!) PS> thanks so much for your note on the late OV after chemical, that seems to be what might be happening with me...now day 21 and still nothing. We shall see!! x
No it's fine, ask away with the questions, I stop the cream 2 days before af so the hormones drop to bring on AF thats what the instructions recommend. Yes you are right that if you catch pregnant you should continue with the cream throughout your pregnancy. With myself I can tell instantly when I catch pregnant and also you will get a positive on a frer 2 days before af so its never been an issue with me. You could take the cream up to 28 days but it might mean your cycle is a couple of days longer than usual. Hope that helps. xx
Ar, ok I'm with you - unfortunately every time I've had a bfp its never until after AF is due so I would need to be careful with that. I don't test positive until I'm around 1-2 days late. Weird!
 
 

 
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Feb 3rd, 2018, 23:57 PM   #15
 
An update - I got my progesterone results back and they were 10. I've got a scan tmw and the rest of my blood results on Friday. My cycle varies from 22-23 days with an average of an 8 day luteal phase each time. I'm on my second month of Soy Isoflavones this month (didn't notice a change last month) and am 3 weeks into acupuncture thanks to all of your suggestions on this thread. I haven't taken the plunge with progesterone cream yet, wanted to give this a shot and wait for my other blood results, but I am thinking that could be the next step if I don't see any changes in the next 2 cycles (I wanted to give the soya & acupuncture 3 months to kick in). Just wanted to say thank you for all the help you gave me, I'd have been lost without it! I'm also taking vitamin C & a B complex as suggested xx
 
 
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