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Naptime nightmare- advice needed desperately!!

Jan 21st, 2013, 17:03 PM   #1
 
Hi,
My little one is 8 months next week and has never been a great sleeper. During the day he will only nap for a maximum of 30 minutes as a time, sometimes even less!! The only time I can get him to sleep longer is in the car and I can't drive for hours every day!!
At night isn't great either, we're currently teething but before that he would rarely go more than 3 hours without waking. He still tends to fall asleep during his last feed and although I try to wake him a little I find he isn't really falling asleep on his own and will scream if I leave the room!
I've tried feeding him earlier and putting him to bed earlier but he just wakes up for the extra hour during the night.
How do I get him to nap for longer during the day as the times he has napped longer he sleeps better at night??
He has just started crawling but it doesn't seem to matter how much playing/ reading/ winding down we do he is still an energiser bunny baby!
Please help, what worked for you and can you suggest anything that might help??
Thank you from one tired, frazzled mummy!!
 
 

 
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Jan 21st, 2013, 22:49 PM   #2
 
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Jan 21st, 2013, 23:09 PM   #3
 
Really sorry I can't give any helpful advice as my little one is exactly the same! She is almost 11 months now and naps are an absolute nightmare. I have spent months and months driving her all over the county as that was the only way she would nap. When the bad weather came I decided I have to get her to nap in her cot. Today was day ten of my 'operation you will nap in your cot!' and I made three attempts to put her down for a nap, spending up to an hour each time trying to settle her. Only one nap was successful and she had only 25 minutes. I really hope things will improve one day. Don't give up...! X
 
 

 
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Jan 22nd, 2013, 00:06 AM   #4
 
Where does LO sleep for naps? And what times does he wake in the morning and what time is his next nap after waking?x
 
 
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Jan 22nd, 2013, 01:53 AM   #5
 
He gets up at 8, has his first nap around 11, usually for 30 mins, if I try and get him to have it in his cot it can take an hour to get him to sleep, he will happily sleep on me!!
Then his next nap is usually around 3, again try in his cot but it seems useless spending so long fighting for a 23-30 min nap. In his pram he will sleep for a max of about 40 mins.
Bed time is 8.
The problem is he's never grumpy cos he's tired, he just doesn't sleep very well at all!! Xx
 
 

 
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Jan 22nd, 2013, 10:57 AM   #6
 
Hey hun. Sounds like you're having a hard time. Maybe he's overtired when you put him down for a nap? I have to be very disciplined with Tilly's nap times or she goes absolutely mad. I rarely let her stay up for more than two hours at a time. If she wakes at 8am, she will be back in her cot at 10am at the latest. Do you have a nap time routine in place? We take her upstairs to our bed, lay her on it and read a story to her, then I recite part of 'The Owl and the Pussy Cat' to her as I take her to her room, lay her in her cot and use a 'key phrase' - 'Now it's time to sleep' or whatever suits you. Kiss on forehead and then I'm out of there. Doesn't always work but this last week she's been a dream. Babies sleep in cycles of roughly 45 minutes, so most of the time she'll just nap for one cycle, but she will sleep for an hour and a half other times, and sometimes even two hours, but that's very rare. It can take her up to half an hour to fall asleep sometimes, but the average is about 15-20 mins.

The key thing I've found this week is that sometimes she is bright as a button, shouting, squealing etc. and kicking around like a madwoman, but it's nap time, so I put her down and then BAM, ten minutes later she's out. I try to put her down while she's still cheerful these days, which has made a huge difference. If you wait til you see yawns and eye-rubs, he's probably already too tired.

This is just what works for me. Hope it helps a little bit. Hugs xxx
 
 

 
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Jan 22nd, 2013, 11:02 AM   #7
 
How old is your little one? I kind of thought mine had passed the every 2 hours stage! I feel like all I do just now is bf him or give him solids!! It's hard to fit much else in!!
We do have the key phrase but most of the time when I feed him he falls asleep so I feel like that's the only time he'll sleep! Not helpful!! At least not with getting himself to sleep.
Also have the issue that he cries when I leave the room so I have to stay till he's asleep! Probably have to just let him cry at some point but it really doesn't sit well with me!! Xx
 
 

 
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Jan 22nd, 2013, 11:14 AM   #8
 
Tilly is 7 months 5 days old, hun, so three weeks behind yours. I think she is starting to move towards dropping the late afternoon nap as we are finding that one difficult still, but she is mostly doing at least two naps a day. Given that she can take half an hour to go to sleep, her wake time is then roughly 2 to 2.5 hours.

Does he cry when you leave the room even when he's up and playing? Like separation anxiety? I think T had this a week or so ago but it seems to have passed. I don't leave her to cry for long at nap times if she's fighting it, but I'll leave her if she's just moaning or doing a 'mantra cry' to fall asleep. If he's crying badly, maybe get him up and try again within an hour?

I totally understand about feeling like you spend all your time feeding him - I feel the same. We are breastfeeding too and I am very guilty of feeding her to sleep - I just realised that my posts sound like this works for me every time, but it has only worked for the past two weeks literally! Before that, we were all over the shop, trying the two hour rule and failing, and me BFing her to sleep too often... it can be disastrous some days here.

Big hugs, hun. Hope you find something that works xxx
 
 

 
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Jan 22nd, 2013, 14:46 PM   #9
 
That sounds very familiar and we've tried to crack it a million times and I cave and let him fall asleep feeding again!
I think there's definitely some separation anxiety, how did you get over that?
He tends to just do shouts cries (mainly because he moves around so much he keeps banging his head on the cot) then it develops into a full on cry and there's no way he can get to sleep from there! Xx
 
 

 
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Jan 28th, 2013, 14:06 PM   #10
 
How are you doing, hun? I don't know how to help them with separation anxiety really - going away during awake time for a short time then coming back all smiles and reassuring, then increasing the time away? During nap times I'll sometimes go into her room when she's complaining, adjust her position in the cot and walk out again, no eye contact, just a soft 'time to sleep'. Playing peekaboo? My LO just stopped all of a sudden... and now we're onto stranger anxiety!

I hope you find something that works for you. xx
 
 

 
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Jan 28th, 2013, 20:35 PM   #11
 
We're doing ok. He's having naps and falling asleep himself as long as I'm in the room. It started off being an hour to fall asleep, it's about 20-30 mins now, we'll get that cracked then I'll do the gradually moving out of the room.
Touchwood he's been sleeping a bit better- long may it continue! Probably just jinxed myself! Xx
 
 

 
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